Curse

TadaceAce · Jun 18, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

A Rockhide Dragon's build is as follows.
Gale, Tenais Wind, Second Wind, Aftershock, Aura of Restoration.

All I have to say is what the hell...
If I was ever trying to make the dumbest most annoying build I could come up with, this is it.

Yeah this is just one of many examples of Anets anti-fun attitude. Whats the point of making an enemy that just chain knocks you down and does nothing else? I beleive the point would be just to annoy the hell outta you. If you look closely into a lotta little things in the game, they are there to stop you from doing something that could be incredibly fun.

I mean really these things just chain gale on anything and everything that moves. Of course their max energy is like 800 too so they never get too exausted.

Another thing, whats with life pods? I can wail on one of those things for 20 minutes and their holy wrath never goes away... lose 10 energy every time holy wrath deals damage.... how much energy do they have?

X of Thulcandra · Jun 18, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Yeah, I started farming Razorfin tonight (got bored and quit), and those damn Rockhides ticked me off, even when balanced blinks and you sprint, they get ONE gale in then they all come and start over...so annoying!

Rent · Jun 18, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by TadaceAce

Another thing, whats with life pods? I can wail on one of those things for 20 minutes and their holy wrath never goes away... lose 10 energy every time holy wrath deals damage.... how much energy do they have?

Holy Wrath is unique in that it does not end when you hit 0 energy--it'll just keep you at 0 pretty much permanently.

salaboB · Jun 18, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45

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Originally Posted by Rent

Holy Wrath is unique in that it does not end when you hit 0 energy--it'll just keep you at 0 pretty much permanently.

Yes but they'll keep spamming orison's when you've been smacking their holy wrath for a while (Evidence of a huge energy pool, although you are correct that the initial complaint is wrong)

Cacheelma · Jun 18, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

.....please, for the love of god, please don't tell me you're whinning about getting killed/owned in PVE?!

I mean come ON! The game is too easy as it is, some annoying mobs don't really hurt the game.

Helios · Jun 18, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37

Balanced Stance FTW

Former Ruling · Jun 18, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

Only once have I ever made a pve monster run out of energy, their energy pool does seem limitless.

The two Overseer's or whatever for Fort Ranik mission (stand beside each other, Heal Area spam). 2 of my team was AFK so I had a lvl6 warrior, and me the monk to work with. After about 5+ Minutes of fighting (ATLEAST, I was watching the clock) they finally started putting more and more time inbetween Heal Areas (the time to recharge 10 energy), so it gave us time to kill one before they heal area'd again.

Given the normal 4 pips of regen I assume for them, they had to have an energy pool of about 150 atleast.

Go to ARborstone explorable, cut directly up to your left, and fight that warden group, go on til theirs a necro boss on your right, kill him, and go to the next boss in the room. Its an Elementalist. This guy is insane. HE puts Aura up, and Spams Stone Daggers, Teinai's Wind, And Gale. He also uses Shockwave as it recharges.

I've let his guy go for a few minutes....15+ uses of Gale atleast, and CONSTANT (nonstop) Spam of Stone Daggers.

He racked up more EXHUASTION than a human player can pysically have energy, and still could spam a 5 energy spell endlessly without thinking twice...

ubermancer · Jun 18, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by Rent

Holy Wrath is unique in that it does not end when you hit 0 energy--it'll just keep you at 0 pretty much permanently.

Wait - how is it unique again? Wouldnt Protective Bond be the unique one?

Renegade ++RIP++ · Jun 18, 2006, 12:25 PM // 12:25

no prot bond ends when you don't have enough energy left over to pay the extra cost.

and last time i checked holy wrath doesn't end. It just keeps you entirely at 0 energy.

which is cool with a fullout sig build

Divinus Stella · Jun 18, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

I think he meant prot bond is unique in that it is the only one that stops at 0 energy, all the others including holy wrath will just stay on provided you dont -regen.

The Rockhide build also has earthquake in, they spam 3 exhaustion causing skills and have no issues.

SilentAssassin · Jun 18, 2006, 01:41 PM // 13:41

so are you now complaining that these dragons are pretty good?... man make a build against it then... geez

Hephaestus Ram · Jun 18, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by TadaceAce

A Rockhide Dragon's build is as follows.
Gale, Tenais Wind, Second Wind, Aftershock, Aura of Restoration.

I mean really these things just chain gale on anything and everything that moves. Of course their max energy is like 800 too so they never get too exausted.

Another thing, whats with life pods? I can wail on one of those things for 20 minutes and their holy wrath never goes away... lose 10 energy every time holy wrath deals damage.... how much energy do they have?

Maybe someone in your party can Daze the dragons?

Maybe someone in your party can use a degen on the pods?

Maybe you'd be having fun if you'd learn how to play better?

Rent · Jun 18, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

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Originally Posted by ubermancer

Wait - how is it unique again? Wouldnt Protective Bond be the unique one?

Holy Wrath unique as compared to other spells that trigger and make you lose energy or end (Thunderclap, Spinal Shivers, Prot Bond, Dark Apostasy, for example).

Blaze Emup · Jun 18, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

The OP does have a point about the seemingly limitless supply of energy. I would imagine that if others can complain about pvp then he has a right to complain about pve. So suck it up. Don't post just to prove your "Eliteness" ..post if you have ideas that may help him. The forums are here to provide information for people who need help..not to criticize them.

I agree that Balanced Stance may provide some assistance but that is a rather odd build with all the exhaustion causing spells.

brokenmonkey · Jun 18, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Heres what u do if ur a caster..

Send henchies in u back UP so u dont get KD then u start

If ur a war get that skill that makes it so u cant get knocked down ( blank mind right now)

With real ppl its even easy'r just have teh war go in with that stance u in back nukere or what ever.. i dont c what the big deal is

Why do u have to complain about every single little challenge?

Rent · Jun 18, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

Heres what u do if ur a caster..

Send henchies in u back UP so u dont get KD then u start

If ur a war get that skill that makes it so u cant get knocked down ( blank mind right now)

With real ppl its even easy'r just have teh war go in with that stance u in back nukere or what ever.. i dont c what the big deal is

Why do u have to complain about every single little challenge?

Please stop raping the English language. She doesn't like it.

Stigmata Arta · Jun 18, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Don't complain about an enemy that can kill you... Ever PLAYED PvP? I don't think those dragons even come close to comparing with some of those damn Hammer warriors with EVERY skill they use knocking you down (my guild leader being one of them

)

Hephaestus Ram · Jun 18, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Blaze Emup

The OP does have a point about the seemingly limitless supply of energy. I would imagine that if others can complain about pvp then he has a right to complain about pve. So suck it up. Don't post just to prove your "Eliteness" ..post if you have ideas that may help him. The forums are here to provide information for people who need help..not to criticize them.

I agree that Balanced Stance may provide some assistance but that is a rather odd build with all the exhaustion causing spells.

What a crock! He didn't ask for any advice. He said that it's Anets
fault that the game is no fun for him. There are plenty of people that
have played through the game, that alone should clue him in that it
might not be anet, but his play style that needs to be fixed.
There are plenty of ways to counter casters. Trying to run up to them
and bash them is probably not the best one.
I'm could be wrong.... but I see a W/MO that only takes the two warrior
and healer henches with him because all those others don't do any-
thing but steal his drops anyway.

Former Ruling · Jun 18, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by Stigmata Arta

Don't complain about an enemy that can kill you... Ever PLAYED PvP? I don't think those dragons even come close to comparing with some of those damn Hammer warriors with EVERY skill they use knocking you down (my guild leader being one of them

)

So Wait...what...your Guild Leader can Spam 3 Exhaustion cuasing skills endlessly?

I want his secrets then.

The OP isn't worried about "uber" dragons he can't beat or anything, they actually aren't that strong, its just annoying for him, and taking fun out of the game for him, because they made some enemies have these annoying unfair advantages.

TadaceAce · Jun 19, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

What a crock! He didn't ask for any advice. He said that it's Anets
fault that the game is no fun for him. There are plenty of people that
have played through the game, that alone should clue him in that it
might not be anet, but his play style that needs to be fixed.
There are plenty of ways to counter casters. Trying to run up to them
and bash them is probably not the best one.
I'm could be wrong.... but I see a W/MO that only takes the two warrior
and healer henches with him because all those others don't do any-
thing but steal his drops anyway.

actually I'm trying to farm the oni on a 55 monk and getting very annoyed by the spamming gale with infinite energy.